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It became crystal clear to me that the bus would stop. Right. And I get on whatever the opportunity was, but that if my skin color had been different, if I had been born in a different zip code, that bus would not have stopped. 

The first time that I felt like. My gender affected what I could do was when I won the Olympic trials in the 2004 Steeplechase and it was an exhibition-only event because the steeplechase was not added to the Olympics yet for women.

I am definitely finding a balance. And I think what I found is like creative work has to — excuse me for the yawn — speaking of tired during the day from work and constantly sleepy you know. But I have to get my creative work done in the morning or it will not get done o...

I really hope this in my lifetime, we’re going to see an even greater evolution of how we talk about fitness. I think we can do it. I think we’re on our way and I think we can do it. 

So my story with running began in 2013. That’s the official that’s what you’ll hear a lot of folks talking about or in other podcasts. But yeah, so I started running then and it was a way for me to sort of help manage my depression and anxiety at that time. 

If an athletes injured they’re going to need more attention than somebody who’s healthy and everything’s firing on all cylinders and things are going well. Athletes have a really fantastic knack of remembering their bad workouts and not their good ones.

I don’t know if it was the wisest decision I’ve ever had. I came into 2022 wanting to, you know, level up my fitness a little bit after the pandemic, after an ankle injury. And the Goggins challenge sort of crossed my path.

I was in financial services marketing for 14 years. I worked with a firm in Denver for ten of those years, and it just got to a point where I wasn’t loving what I was doing and it was taking up obviously the good majority of every day or most of my days.

Mental toughness is about the long haul. It’s about the long journey. It’s about the marathon. It’s not about the first four steps, but but if you need that or if you benefit from that in the first four steps, knock yourself out. There’s nothing wrong with it. 

I mean, maybe I was insane beforehand and it just, you know, it was all the same. But truthfully, that was one of my biggest concerns because before spending 70 days alone and there was no follow boat, there was no helicopter, so it was legitimately alone.